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iaxxeel Jan 18, 2013 09:13AM PST

When will Twitch be getting HTML5 support?
Flash is getting pretty old, insecure, and decrepit - it's only a matter of time before it's replaced.

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Support: Twitch Staff Jan 18, 2013 09:57AM PST

We’re actually working on HLS.

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Euranion: Jan 21, 2013 01:58PM PST
Thats awesome Jason, any ETA? :)
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Support: Twitch Staff Jan 21, 2013 01:58PM PST

Likely in a couple of months. But not set in stone.

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Vefom: Apr 23, 2013 11:45AM PDT
Bump. Want to watch Twitch on Wii U.
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nulldomain: Apr 23, 2013 11:45AM PDT
Why not based on a open standard like DASH?
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vazgen05: Apr 23, 2013 11:45AM PDT
Bump. We still waiting for html5. Get rid of shitty flash already.
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qwe: Apr 23, 2013 11:45AM PDT
Will desktop browsers still be bound to Flash?
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Support: Twitch Staff Apr 23, 2013 11:46AM PDT

New system will not be bound to Flash.

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aerinas: Apr 29, 2013 10:37AM PDT
Just use the SIP protocol. It's kinda hard getting into it, but as soon as everything is up and running it's awesome. You can stream from pretty much any platform to any platform with SIP and there are tons of server solutions that support it.
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HTMLToronto: May 06, 2013 04:03PM PDT
Any word on this? Also, any possibility to be in a pre-launch (beta) group? I recently did a NASA Space Apps challenge, helped out with an Accessibility group’s event and do both weekly streams as well as monthly events. I would love to be able to help you build the HTML based player. I’ve got an event coming up on the 22nd of May that the speaker is TVO (large TV studio in Canada) who is demonstrating their Leap Motion development as well as designing interactive games for kids. It will likely be held at Ryerson University’s interactive centre.
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w13ard: May 06, 2013 04:03PM PDT
Jason, any news about html5?
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Support: Twitch Staff May 06, 2013 04:03PM PDT


I do not have an update at this time.

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Support: Twitch Staff Aug 23, 2013 09:40AM PDT

HLS the platform has been implemented. Now we’re making changes to what we do on top of it. We’ll be blogging about this soon.

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circuuz: Sep 20, 2013 03:24PM PDT
Bump bump, still waiting :/
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Support: Twitch Staff Sep 20, 2013 03:24PM PDT

Already live.

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circuuz: Sep 23, 2013 10:35AM PDT
Really? Do I need to activate it in any way? Because for me its still a flash player..
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Support: Twitch Staff Sep 23, 2013 10:35AM PDT

Served from HLS. Not 100%, but has begun…

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djalec0: Oct 11, 2013 05:30PM PDT
Is the HTML5 player live now? I want to embed the player into a Windows 8 metro app as they don't support flash.
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Vadinoiro: Oct 27, 2013 10:45AM PDT
I'm so happy to hear that there will be switch to HTML5.
Keep us posted. I there is a need for beta testers im in.
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x1xm1n: Nov 06, 2013 01:25PM PST
I use my xbox 360 with the twitch app and it plays fine plus the youtube app is awesome.

I can also use IE for xbox to watch youtube videos perfectly fine even though for 2 secs it says you need flash to view then the video plays.

Now im confused about youtube and twitch stating flash is needed as with IE but all 3 work perfectly fine, so does this mean YOUTUBE and TWITCH apps plus IE for 360 are HTML5 compliant?

How or why can i view flash on 360 via the 2 apps and IE for 360 when there is a clear message that you need Adobe Flash to view but its abvious HTML5 is used and has been for years now on xbox and ps3.

However Twitch via IE for xbox wont load/play videos. I need flash.WTF? Plus my sony bravia will not play Twitch or youtube videos as flash and HTML5 is not surrported and never will be BUT the YOUTUBE app for my TV works great as with rss feeds and other formats that require Flash or HTML5 . WTF? So is MS and Adobe up to some BS or is there an issue with media rights or is it like UFOs, we all know but the powers that be dont want to give up power and control just yet.
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phantec: Nov 22, 2013 10:49AM PST
ok, is working in HTML5, still I think you should have new official way of embedding streams using an iframe like youtube does and detect which player (flash,html etc) browser supports and give proper stream.
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phantec: Nov 22, 2013 10:49AM PST
Hi, why HLS (e.g. doesn't work in Android 4.4 (and any other) in WebView and Chrome (even if I change user agent to ipad, the only difference is that the message about unsupported player is gone) but when open channel main page then stream is working and is played from <video> tag?
Since Android 4.4 doesn't work with flash anymore (WebView is now based on Chrome) there is no way to embed twitch stream, can you fix site?

"HTTP Live Streaming
Android 4.4 updates the platform's HTTP Live Streaming (HLS) support to a superset of version 7 of the HLS specification (version 4 of the protocol). See the IETF draft for details." -
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Arokhantos: Nov 22, 2013 10:49AM PST
html5 would be nice flash just cause buffering issues which usualy don't have with html5
flash is nothing but performance bottleneck really........
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TriniGamerShaq: Dec 03, 2013 09:49AM PST
When is the chat getting html5 support? No point in seeing the stream if you can't chat.
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kirgog: Dec 05, 2013 10:54AM PST

As others, I look forward to the html5 over hls streams.
I hope you'll find a solution with ads / html5, as I think it's your main source of trouble :/

As Arokhantos said, flash cause buffering issues with some stream like 60fps or 1080p
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andrei318ti: Jan 07, 2014 10:54AM PST
HLS works great on Mac + Safari. In order for it to work you need to uninstall Flash or simply use a add-on to control which sites can use flash. For it's perfect because CPU has gone down dramatically and thus temps and nice and low.
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playn: Jan 07, 2014 10:54AM PST
Hey just wondering if there's an update on this? Any chance we could see HTML chat soon?
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mattbisme: Jan 09, 2014 11:18AM PST
How do we use the HTML5 player in Chrome? Even disabling the plugin causes a "You need flash" error message.
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wzzle: Feb 08, 2014 01:58AM PST
you can just ad "/hls" to the end of the URL like this:

This will load the stream in html5 player. Working in safari for me. Just remember to disable adblock on twitch or else the hls player will not load.
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Twitchuser: Feb 20, 2014 05:17PM PST
Any update on getting this working in Windows? The /hls option doesn't work, gives error about unsupported browser.
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loos_guccreen: Mar 17, 2014 06:47AM PDT
Hi, how is the html5 dev going ?

I recently decided to remove flash from my main browser on my mac (safari) and it works great (you should totally consider doing it, it's pretty awesome).

It works great except with twitch. I just get to see a html5 player (which is good), but it cannot load any stream (when I click play I only get a black screen).

If I inspect it, it seems the <video> has no src=, which may be the reason why nothing is loading (although I'm not a professional of HLS).

Is the problem coming from me ? From you (dev not finished) ?
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Clafoutee: Apr 05, 2014 06:57AM PDT
Hi, any news about this?

I really like to watch streams but flash player is killing my laptop battery...
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DaVince2: Apr 07, 2014 01:32PM PDT
Whoa, it's over a year later. What happened to HTML5 streaming? Appending /hls to an URL does not work on recorded streams. (It 404s.)
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dryroastedlemon: Apr 22, 2014 05:22AM PDT
We need some more info on this. The HLS support you guys apparently implemented also apparently seems to suck quite badly in terms of support. It's been a year and practically nothing has changed. I don't know about what other people think, but you guys over at Twitch need to get your act together, stop using outdated technology, and work on a proper HTML5 player. Investigate the WEBM format, for instance. WEBM is absolutely phenomenal and would be a massive upgrade to Twitch (or any video streaming website). Flash is an absolutely horrendous system for video streaming, especially at higher qualities and higher framerates. A lot of people mention how you need a better CPU for watching high quality high framerate videos, but that's absolute hogwash. The reason why video playback in Flash doesn't work well isn't because of your CPU; it's because Flash is so badly made. Upgrading your CPU for that reason is the worst reason you could ever think of. Just to paint a picture: you can watch a 720p 60fps gaming video with absolutely zero framedrops on an Intel Core 2 Duo using any video player (such as VLC or MPC), whereas that's not such a great experience when watching that video through Flash. In fact, Flash butchers the entire experience.

It'd be great if we could just leave all this outdated technology behind >_>
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dryroastedlemon: Apr 29, 2014 08:17AM PDT
Actually, I did some extra reading about the subject. Now I'm even more confused why you guys chose to opt for HLS as opposed to HDS.
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nakkiiiii: May 05, 2014 09:49AM PDT
Where is the support for other browsers such as Chrome??

Youtube has had support for HTML5 for a long time now... Where is Twitch's support???? What year is it?
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Kenifyable: May 20, 2014 11:30PM PDT
Why did the Twitch administration go for HLS?
A protocol designed by Apple... FailFish.

There must be other alternatives out there...
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iorekz: May 31, 2014 02:59AM PDT
Hard to develop any web app without chrome support, any plan soon ?
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ROadkill66611: Jun 25, 2014 10:15AM PDT
I have a windowsphone 8 (lumia 521) and no protocol is working. I've tried HLS, popout, HDS and none of them work. Is there some other one that works?

Why is is taking so long for you guys to get rid of flash and offer us the ability to use our windowsphones to watch live streams as well as past and saved broadcasts?
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JOAN: Jun 27, 2014 06:51PM PDT
when it goes in HTML5 version? published date .... hurry as twitch. youtube but you'll leave behind and will take your game streaming channel.
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Nyllith: Jul 17, 2014 04:58PM PDT
I recently switched over to the HLS player on my macbook in safari, and I keep getting to a point where the stream video will get into slow motion while the audio remains fine which forces to refresh the page every 2 minutes, really annoying. Is this normal behavior? I really consider switching to VLC even though streamers get no add revenue out of it, having to choose between the computer melting flash player and this glitchy HLS player is really disappointing.
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jasefacekhs: Jul 21, 2014 08:52PM PDT
can't watch twitch with said /hls appending on firefox, firefox nightly, chrome, canary, or IE. what the crap?
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SilverHorus: Jul 30, 2014 07:47AM PDT
Maybe now that Google has bought Twitch things will go faster.

I was looking these days how viable it is today to watch youtube without Flash and I got mind-blown.
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Ottius: Aug 04, 2014 02:12PM PDT
I doubt it. If anything, Google buying things out usually kills them or slows down even further.
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enigmaxg2: Sep 05, 2014 11:24AM PDT
Still waiting for HTML 5 support, recently CPU usage goes beyond 60% with player, and doesn't let me to do other things.
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ILikeVoltron: Sep 07, 2014 09:59AM PDT
Yea, this is amazingly slow moving guys. "AUG 23, 2013" Is a notice that it's been implemented? But it still doesn't work on 4 out of 5 browsers/platforms?

Gahhhh.... I guess I'll just eat the 140% CPU utilization for flash or launch safari ONLY to watch twitch streams? :sadpanda:
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FreakNor: Nov 02, 2014 05:09PM PST
I also support enabling HTML5 video for desktop computers. Using Debian Linux (in virtual enviroment) flash use a lot more cpu than necessary. Youtube (HTML5) works like a charm.
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shironezumi: Nov 04, 2014 10:11PM PST
I also use linux. It would be nice to have html5 player. Flash is unsupported and bad in so many aspects.
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sylv__: Nov 15, 2014 12:17PM PST
After a year and a half, still no new about in html5 ? :-(
Even the beta version of the site use flash...

It's particulary bad for Linux users, for whom Flash Player is not any more supported (except security updates).

Still, there is some solutions, I invite persons reading this message to take a look at and .
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utack: Dec 05, 2014 07:01PM PST
Any official updates?
Worlds most known game streaming site and still ancient technology.
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Manuel: Dec 09, 2014 02:06PM PST
YouTube dont need Flash, MyVideo dont need Flash, Netflix dont need Flash.
Why the Hell is Twich living in the past and needs Flash?
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oromit: Dec 18, 2014 10:47AM PST
Because it's live.
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woodentoe: Jan 16, 2015 04:13PM PST
Hey this post is almost 2 years old! Happy birthday abandoned request for a sensible update to a god awful technology! I wonder how much Adobe paid you guys.
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Âshesfall83: Jan 19, 2015 04:58PM PST
its really sad because flash still crashes sometimes ONLY at twitch.
i guess it has something to do with twitch ads while we wont see html5 i mean what else?
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nydas3k: Jan 23, 2015 07:37AM PST
checking this thread every month and it's same since 2 years lol

I guess my grandchilds maybe will use that option in 2025 :Kappa:
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vvombat: Jan 23, 2015 08:04AM PST
Since there are two (!) critical exploits in flash right now there realy should be html5 for / in Twitch. Flash has no future and is insecure. You guys know that more than we do. Thought you guys had some realy good programmers. Don't say to us it takes two years for them to implement HTML5. Make it happen please.
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Shmerl: Jan 25, 2015 01:41PM PST
So, no sign of HTML5 support? Come on! Get rid of this annoying Flash already please!
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sakakinozomi: Jan 26, 2015 03:06PM PST
I've uninstalled flash after getting malware due to a flash exploits. I can't enjoy Twitch content now, but my computer safety is more important than Twitch. Still I'd like twitch to have HTML5 video support (Just like YouTube and the other big video sites). Till then I won't be able to use the website.
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Foxybear33: Jan 28, 2015 04:23AM PST
YouTube now defaults to HTML5.

Time to follow the step for
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MicroSyntax: Jan 29, 2015 01:15PM PST
WHEN? Just bought an Xbox One, I honestly can't believe Twitch STILL isn't Html5 yet. Unreal.
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darkaviator: Feb 02, 2015 10:54AM PST
Trying the /hls "trick" doesn't work with an up to date Firefox in Win7 64bit, says Unsupported Player. *sigh* The first question in this thread is 2 years old, and they still don't have it working? So much for "in a few months" ...

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